[Community] notes from yesterday's call (August 9, 2006)

[Drummond Reed]

Eugene,

I sent a note to Scott Blackmer asking if he could attend the next call. If
Mary Rundle and Dan Perry can both attend, along with anyone else that is
particularly interested in the topic of the legal form of IC2, I think we
can make serious promise.

Also, I'd like to suggest that we move our deadline for legal incorporation
forwards by exactly 4 days to coincide with the Identity Open Space session
on Sept. 11 -- the opening day of Digital ID World 2006 in Santa Clara.

Since many of us will be there in person, I think it presents a wonderful
opportunity to acknowledge this milestone and move forward with the business
of making sure that the new IC2 is meeting the needs of all of its initial
working groups.

=Drummond 

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Subject: [Community] notes from yesterday's call (August 9, 2006)

The updated map from yesterday morning's call is at:

  http://blueoxen.net/c/boa/dmap/idcommons/

We focused on three topics:

  * Proactive outreach to the community on our progress thus far

  * Implementing the working group model

  * Proposed principle of non-duplication

Three groups were mentioned as people/organizations we need to
proactively approach.  Mary Rundle suggested talking to PRIME
(http://www.prime-project.eu.org/) and FIDIS (http://www.fidis.net/),
two European groups also exploring identity issues.  She'll introduce
Jan Camenish and Kai Ranenberg to our community.  Drummond mentioned
the Reputation Gang (Bill Washburn and Meng Weng Wong).  Eugene said
he'd touch base with them.  David Recordon suggested talking to the
companies involved with OSIS, including IBM, Microsoft, Verisign,
Novell, and Red Hat.  Paul will approach Johannes about reaching out
to these companies.

In order to prepare for this outreach, we need to garden the Wiki.
Paul will make a first pass at this, which will primarily consist of
moving the contents of IdentityCommonsTwo over to the FrontPage.

Now that we have an organizational model, we need to start
implementing it.  Drummond posted a charter template on the Wiki.
Eugene suggested that those who want to have a working group start by
putting together a charter on the Wiki based on the template.  He
kicked things off by proposing an IdentityCommonsCollaborativeTools
working group (charter is on the Wiki).

David brought us up to speed on a potential OpenID working group.  The
OpenID community has an immediate need to transfer its IP and other
holding to a neutral party.  Some of this will go to the Apache
Software Foundation, but ASF does not have interest in holding
trademarks.  People like the idea of transferring the IP to Identity
Commons, but are concerned that the current roadmap does not map to
OpenID's needs.

Eugene mentioned the idea of holding the IP in trust, similar to what
IC1 (the current legal structure) is doing with the "Identity Commons"
brand.  Brett McDowell offered Liberty Alliance as an organization
that could also play that role.

We decided to accelerate coming to closure on the legal structure --
the target date is six weeks from now, or September 15, 2006.  David
said that this accelerated schedule would assuage his concerns.

Finally, we discussed the principle of non-duplication that Brett
proposed on the mailing list last week.  Eugene framed it as a
principle of external and internal collaboration.  In other words,
although our structure is meant to be loose enough that anybody in
alignment could easily be part of our structure, we need to
acknowledge that some organizations will not want this for whatever
reason.  A principle of external collaboration means that we will work
with those organizations, regardless of whether or not they are under
the IC umbrella (or over the upside-down umbrella, as Andrew Nelson
often draws it).

Brett also proposed that IC2 consider Liberty Alliance as the legal
structure rather than start a new legal entity (perhaps as a working
group within Liberty, or a stand-alone umbrella for several groups).
He said that Liberty is re-examining its structure based on a lot of
recent feedback from the broader community and may act upon that
feedback quickly, resulting in a new structure and organizational
model that he believes would also be an attractive home for IC2 and
related activities.

Next week's phone call will be on Wednesday, August 16, at 9am PT.
The focus will be on legal/organizational issues, especially in light
of our new self-imposed deadline.  Mary suggested that we make sure
that Dan Perry and Scott Blackmer be able to join us.  Dan (who was on
our call) said he can.  Drummond will touch base with Scott about
this.

=Eugene

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