[Community] summary of today's (10/11) phone call

Paul Trevithick paul at socialphysics.org
Fri Oct 13 12:35:04 PDT 2006


Eugene,

Again, my apologies for missing this meeting, but I've reviewed these notes
and agree with everything. Including you as chair.

Thanks for all your great work,
-Paul

> -----Original Message-----
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> bounces at idcommons.net] On Behalf Of Eugene Eric Kim
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:39 PM
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> Subject: [Community] summary of today's (10/11) phone call
> 
> Thanks to all who participated on the call today.  Attending were: Owen
> Davis, Victor Grey, Kaliya Hamlin, Dick Hardt, Joaquin Miller, Dale Olds,
> Dan Perry, Jon Ramer, Drummond Reed, Mary Ruddy, Gabe Wachob, Bill
> Washburn.
> 
> First, I clarified that many of the items in the notes from last week were
> ideas rather than proposals:
> 
>   http://mail.idcommons.net/pipermail/community/2006-October/000761.html
> 
> = VOTING =
> 
> We reviewed the voting discussion from last week.  Folks agreed that
> voting
> on the mailing list in an open, transparent way was a good idea.  Gabe
> observed that even an open phone call is biased towards a particular
> geographical region.  Bill noted that while a mailing list has its
> benefits, efficiency and expediency of the vote are also important
> principles.
> 
> I clarified that while everyone will be allowed to participate in
> discussions, only Stewards Council members can vote.
> 
> Dale threw out the possibility of allowing alternates to vote.  People
> raised concerns about giving certain Working Groups additional
> representation.  We decided that it would be cleaner to only have an
> alternate vote when the Working Group's Steward is unable to vote.
> 
> Dan raised issues with how we were using the term "quorum."  He's going to
> work with us to determine the right wording once we agree on what the
> procedure should be.
> 
> Dick suggested that rather than accept a majority of those who vote, we
> should require a majority of the Stewards Council in order for something
> to
> pass.  Dale, while not objecting, noted that not requiring a majority of
> the Council prevented individual inaction from slowing down the entire
> group, and compared that principle to how IETF works.
> 
> We will require a 72-hour period for a vote to occur.
> 
> Dick and Bill stressed that, as a best practice, if we're divided on an
> issue, then we probably need more discussion in order to reach rough
> consensus.
> 
> = CHAIR =
> 
> We discussed Brett's proposal from last week that the Stewards Council
> select a chair.  Several people suggested that the chair's role be
> facilitative; make sure the meetings happen and run smoothly, and make
> that
> the Stewards Council does its business.  Everyone seemed in favor of this
> idea.
> 
> = STEWARDS COUNCIL MEETINGS =
> 
> We agreed that a quarterly Stewards Council telephone call is a good
> thing.
>  This does not prevent us from having other phone calls, but it's
> something
> that we can all schedule around and can make strong efforts to attend.
> 
> = WORKING GROUPS =
> 
> We agreed that an alternate Steward should be optional.  Bill emphasized
> that we should frame things positively; i.e. "We welcome the appointment
> of
> an alternate, should you decide to appoint one."
> 
> We agreed that an individual can be the Steward for multiple Working
> Groups.  In these situations, an individual will only have one vote.
> 
> = NEXT STEPS =
> 
> The points on which we agreed are all on our Wiki.  You are encouraged to
> continue the conversation there or on the mailing list.  Once we've
> reached
> rough consensus over these policies, we will have a vote (per the process
> we've defined).
> 
> We plan on organizing at least one more Stewards-wide phone call to
> resolve
> issues regarding our process.  The main outstanding issues are:
> 
>   * mandated discussion period before a call for vote
>   * procedure for dissolving Working Groups
> 
> Feel free to add to or correct these notes.  Questions and comments are
> encouraged.
> 
> =Eugene
> 
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