[Community] Concrete Example on somebody who would have joinedNewOrg if it were there.

[Drummond Reed]

Nat, this is an excellent concrete example. Of these services (listed under
item 2. in your message), the only ones Identity Commons provides today are
(1), (2), and (4), with (2) and (4) being limited. But _all_ of these have
been under discussion as potential services, so it is very helpful to have
this list of what is needed.

 

As a director of the OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation, I
can offer my personal opinion (not yet vetted with either organization) that
both would likely have been (and may still be) interested in this same set
of services.

 

One more not listed was Media Outreach and PR. That is another shared
service than can save smaller organizations a lot of money.

 

=Drummond 

 

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From: community-bounces at idcommons.net
[mailto:community-bounces at idcommons.net] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:09 AM
To: community at idcommons.net
Subject: [Community] Concrete Example on somebody who would have
joinedNewOrg if it were there.

 

Sorry that I did not respond earlier. I was too much preocupied with things
like "PAPE at OpenID" :-)

While I was forming OpenID Japan, we have encountered the some of the
bootstrap problems. 

1. Starting as an Informal organization was easy, but it has no umbrella of
limited liability. 
    Every member of such an organization is exposed to unlimited liability. 
    This is clearly not desireble. 
2. The option we had was to be a member of a legal identity that could give
us: 
    (1) Independent Governance and Branding
    (2) Financial Autonomy, with a bank account that allows us to receive
money
    (3) Limited Liability Umbrella. 
    Additionally, if we had
    (4) Technical Infrastructure such as Wiki etc. 
    (5) Administrative help
    it would have been even nicer. (Looks similar to Tier 3 WG in Bret's
mail). 
3. As a regional entity in the OpenID world, we seeked this to OIDF, but 
    it did not provide it. Thus, we had to incorporate in our own. 
    This was a big bootstrap problem for us: we spent nearly 5 months for 
    incorporation (still underway) and together with it, considerable legal
cost etc. 
    i.e., we have wasted both time and money, and we continue to, because 
    we have to do a lot of non-core things when we incorporate on our own. 

If IC could provide items in 2. above, then forming OpenID Japan as a WG of
IC was 
clearly a preferred option for us. 

(By the way, does IC provide these? )

My 2c.  

-- 
Nat Sakimura (=nat)
http://www.sakimura.org/en/ 

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